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Well, after swearing up and down I wouldnt do it, I've gone and done it..... I bought a water pumper today. Strictly as a winter car though, so I feel I should be given absolution. Its an '88 golf, and I got it for 200 bucks so the price was right. I figure it will keep my air cooled children of the winter streets in this harsh New Hampshire season. And, no I will not be subscribing to the watercooled list ;-) Boyd Drew 1971 GTV Ragtop Super 1965 Notchback 1500s 1988 Golf ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/