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A filter's job is to remove foreign matter and hold it. Once it becomes saturated, i.e. can no longer meet filtering requirements, it must be replaced. Thus, an oil filter really isn't a permanent filter. Yes, it's better, but the oil still must be replaced, actually, it must be recycled! So, for convince sake, a fiber filter is better. Fiber filters don't spill oil all over when the car is in an unnatural position (like in an accident). I know K&N filters can be cleaned, reoiled, and reused thus they make a very good filter for those who don't make it to town very often. Depending upon the situation each filtering system has its place. Wow, I remember when my baby had the stock oil filter...I can't remember when my dad, if ever, replaced the filter oil (himself, I'm sure the shop did it). How can one tell when the oil needs to be replaced? Is there any way to measure its density as an indicator or by how deep the sludge on the bottom is? :) Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ >-----Original Message----- >why replace a superior >filter to an >inferior filter? A permanant filter to a disposable?