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Well... I went to put the Empis on and I found they sent me some strange 22mm head lug bolt that I couldn't get a scoket around and into the recess in the wheel. Called NOPI and they had a hard time figuring what I wanted when i told them I need the correct bolts for that wheel. There sending me a stud kit... What ar you guys using on your 8 spokes in a stock application?? Despite everyones assurances they LOOK like there gonna rub when I fill the car up with people... Im worried... You sure cant lower it with 5.5" offset wheels!! Keith parkkj@crd.ge.com