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Stan, David and others, Good suggestions and ideas, thanks! My jack lifts just over 15" (one of my minimum requirements for my low-to-the-ground vehicles) but its cup is only about 2 1/5" in diameter. I've been wanting ramps for some time and this is a good enough excuse to get 'em, plus I will definitely need them when reinstalling my front [after-market] sway bar. I think a 4x4 under each heat exchanger joined together with a thick piece of plywood will be used to support the engine. I believe my jack cup comes off and if it doesn't I'm a Master of Improvising and Adapting (a black belt, if I may brag a little :) and will find a work-around (good idea, David). I was thinking of making a border, a path if you will, for the drivetrain to follow and moving it all on a layer of BBs or marbles... To keep damage to a minimum I'll remove the engine first and set it aside then remove the tranny. Depending upon my confidence and removal experience I may try to install the tranny and engine as one unit. Hey, lining up those splines should be easier this way! :) Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email responses '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/