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>... > the vin number it is registered to is #0482209. i have >some a book that dates the vin to pre 63. is this true. Got you covered. Go here. http://www.autographica.com/t3_parts_book/pages/production.html It dates #0482209 as a June (probably) production '64 model. I say June because 0483xxx is the start of July production number. To see the whole site go here: http://www.autographica.com/t3_parts_book And while you're there, register that bad boy... Big Al ____________________________ http://www.autographica.com/vw for all things Volkswagen: Houston Volkswagen Club Type 3 Parts Book ONLINE! Type 3 Cabriolet Prototype Project The Rebus Project - '62 Notchback ------------------------------------------------