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On 10 Jun 98 at 9:43, Patrick Joel Morton wrote: > At 23:07 09.06.1998, Jim Adney wrote: > > * >The rear view mirror in my `69 square has some kind of > * >"thorn" with a bolt pointing towards the windshield. > * This was a "feature" only found on 68-9 T3s. > > That is strange; I have a perfectly original 1967 Squareback and its mirror > has one of these! My mirror has a chrome base, but the mirror itself is > white plastic. How does this figure? European model? Oops, sorry. 68 was the first year that the mirror frame was covered in white vinyl. I had forgotten that the earlier chrome mirrors also had this extra arm. Was the extra arm there from the beginning or did it start in 67? > * 68 was the first year for the spring-loaded breakaway mounting of > * this mirror. > > I have not removed my mirror for awhile, but I believe that it comes out > with a good smack. I thought all the chrome mirrors mounted with two obvious screws, but you've clearly looked at one much more recently than I have. Please verify. > * The second reason is that the extra point of support would help avoid > * annoying vibrations in the mirror that might hurt your rear vision. > * The later mirrors did without this, but do vibrate a bit more. > > This also seems a bit wierd to me. Although this metal arm does not touch > the windshield or even actually come close to it, I have not noticed mirror > vibrations. Even on the particularly crappy Finnish roads that we have > here! Well, I thought I could see some resonant vibration at certain engine RPMs, but it was clearly not much of a problem because VW dropped this extra arm in 70. > Were these 1969 mirrors similar to Typ 1 mirrors in that they do no have a > chrome base like mine? Thus, they would be white plastic? Right. I suspect that all the VW mirrors became white vinly covered at the same time (68-). Jim - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA *******************************