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Toby, could you post some pictures of this headliner. I still think I can use to my advangate and maybe get laid by saying "I know a guy with a bright orange felt headliner, wanna get busy?" I figure the pictures will help if they're still a bit wary. Also, good luck beating the Notches. They seem to have a special place in the Judge's hearts (maybe that's why we bought one). Our Square came away with a few 1st places though. I also think late models dont have the attraction power that early models do. That also may be why yer losing out to the Notchbacks. Good Luck Matt