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Interesting, sometimes I prefer to listen to the engine instead of the radio as well. And not only when I think something is wrong :p""" Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ >-----Original Message----- > There is >nothing better than a long road trip in an ACVW. We don't even have a >radio in the Varian and we rarely use the stock radio in the >beetle. The >engine itself is the best music (most of the time).