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In a message dated 98-07-24 09:06:20 EDT, you write: << I will be using our togaweiB (toga white) >> Just my 2c, I see now and then stuff like togaweiB which is pronounced togaweiss and also written so. This B means ss and should actually have a little tail like a beta. this is now considered old and everybody uses ss nowadays.So feel free to substitute, the germans do. Regards HB