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Externally the tranny looks fine (yes, there is a tranny under all that oil). Internally...probably looks like metallic paste. I don't really know the internals but I'm guessing that my case and nose cone is okay -- luckily I don't need to send it in for a core! However, the tranny is a Type I (the case number starts out 113-...) but, from what I gather so far, the nose cone is still a T3, right (I don't know, now)? I've been debating what to do with it (the thrashed tranny). Make it into a burly-assed ash tray?...nope, I quit smoking four years ago...use it as a door stop?...right, and throw my back out when ever I want to actually use it!...slice-n-dice it so it acts like one of those cutaway models like they use when showing off the internals of something?...hmmm, getting warmer, kinda like that idea...how about using the case and attaching a starter so I can start an engine without it being in the car?...wow, I really like that idea and I wouldn't need the nose cone! Maybe this will work out for both of us? Right now everything is still in the car. I gotta organize the garage a little more to make room to store the drive train once I pull it. Then patiently await for the five-speed... Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email responses '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Nose Cone Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE_MIME Date: 2/19/98 4:19 PM While were on the subject.. I need a nosecone for a 73 T3 tranny, I broke the end off getting it out (DOH!) Toby..Did you schrapnel that part too?? Thanks Keith parkkj@crd.ge.com