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MUCH too dark for me.. and please.. if you do this to a car.. choose a say 64 or 65.. ANYTHING but a 62! I almost cried! look for my comments on my ENLIGHTENED Notchback in a day or 2.. yea, I still hate carburators but the rest of the car was a blast to drive! Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org