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It's funny you should ask, Rachel. I just got through doing just that on my friend Wilson's engine (yes, still not in the car yet - I was gone for a whole month). The engine is a combination of my 1973 'long block' and Wilson's '66 carbs and ignition, with spare parts for the conversion to dual port bought along the way. We were using the fan shroud (the aluminum piece) from his engine (66) and were just about to mount the generator from my new '71 partsmobile, when we discovered the same problem you figured out before you went shopping. From what I can tell, it's a real pain in the butt to fully assemble the shroud, then have to disassemble it, move the cooling flaps to the late model shroud ('cause you've only got one set), and then reassemble it again. Wait a minute, that last sentence was supposed to read 'From what I can tell, the early and late shrouds are completely interchangeable, except for the generator mount.' As far as getting it into the car, I don't know - they seem to be the same size. The 'stock exhaust' question? If it's such a hassle to replace the shroud with the stock exhaust in place, wouldn't you be removing it to put on another exhaust? Self-solving problem! I have the engine for my '71 squareback out of the car, on my work table. I just looked at it (with stock exhaust and shroud in place) and it looks like you should be able to get the shroud off without too much trouble. Get ready for a lot of creeper time, though - it's not going to be that easy. I think to get it off with the engine in the car and exhaust in place, you'll probably have to pull the crank pulley off before you can get the tin part off. Once that's out of the way, it should be pretty easy, there are only 7 bolts holding it on: 6 outside and 1 inside the shroud. If you don't have one yet, you'll be wanting to get a generic 'harmonic balancer' or steering wheel puller. There's no way to pry the fan off with the engine in the car, and that's the wrong way to do it anyhow - too easy to bend the fan. Don't forget to disconnect the cooling flaps before you remove the "front" half of the aluminum shroud. There's a little 'E' clip on the rod, and a washer underneath it. Be careful not to lose the clip - I used needle nose pliers to pull it straight off (of course, I wasn't laying under a car at the time). The torque for the crank pulley is 94 - 108 Ft/Lbs in the Bentley book. You'll need a 30 mm socket for it, too. Have fun, and let us know how it works out. Jake "I'll make stoopid mistakes so you don't have to" Kooser ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/