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Oh, about 12 inches! The T2 is a Bus so it will be longer than the rest of the Types. Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member '95 VW Jetta GL 2.0L, boringly bone-sto/×2†rtland, Oregon, http://www.pobox.com/~toby_erkson/ >-----Original Message----- >Second question. What is the difference between a Type 1 and Type 2 >shifter? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/