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Tom asked about rust killers.... You typically do not have to remove all the rust down to bare metal, just the loose stuff and grease and stuff. Toby Erkson has some recent experience with the Corroless paint and has some pictures on his T3 Tech webpage. Care to eloborate Toby? Here are a couple of other webpages to check out. Toby E.'s Tech Page http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1641/ POR-15 Page http://oldus66.com/Business/Misc/por15.html Eastwood Page (Corroless) http://www.eastwoodco.com/products/rust_prev/rust_prev.html Hope this helps. -- John Jaranson Research Engineer Ford Motor Company SRL 2621 Dearborn, MI 48121 (313)323-0553 (313)845-4724 FAX ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/