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Yes, we have all spoke it before I FEEL LIKE SUCH A IDIOT (it is becoming a clichˇ' :-) My t3 fastback didn't start cos there was not enough juice for spark to occur on the sparkplugs. When I removed the plug wires to check for spark, yes there was but then I had a storm (in a tea cup) and removed a plug. When I earthed the plug and turned the motor nuting. DOH! a new coil was needed, the only piece of electric's I did not replace. And that was probably the only thing that needed replacement.... Thanx for all the responses Brainstorm ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subjbscribe