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Hello As far as I know SA mufflers are the same as those you get elsewhere. The difference lies with the heat exchangers as SA ones produce less heat than the normal ones. My car does not have the intermidiate air hose going to the warm air mixer box, and it also doesn't have a mixer box. This is all stock BTW. I don't have rear hear exchangers either as they will be in the way of my stainless-steel muffler. I had to make some spcial air hoses to connect the fan housing to the fron heat exchangers in order to get my heaters to work. Take care Regards Adriaan Loedolff adriaan@norton.ctech.ac.za '69 Variant Automatic (200 000 miles + and still cruisin' after all of these years!)