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So the question is, where should it go ? I assume left > >from the ashtray, but how far to the left and how high, can anybody give > >me the exact measurements?? > > Theo, > > You surprise me! Wasn't the lighter a dealer add-on, or aftermarket, only? > I would think you would have to be a pretty dedicated smoker to even > CONSIDER putting a hole in your dash for this. ;-) > > Jim First of all, yes. I am a decicated smoker. In the states though, you feel pretty much an outcast when smoking. I'd personally never smoke in somebodies house or near someone who doesn't smoke or is bothered by it, I always ask first. I found it pretty sad (and also amusing) to see people smoking outside office building during their break in the US. Re the lighter, I can get by using matches or a normal lighter. I'm not really sure whether a lighter was a factory option. My father always had a lighter in the beetles he owned and they always came with the car from new. There's is no mention of it in the parts books, or brochures I have, so it probably was at least a dealer option. In my memory there should be a lighter on the dash, next to the ashtray which is there for a purpose (and that's not for keeping candy, small change or birth control thingies) At swapmeets overhere you frequently see them. The knob is the same as the other knobs on the dash meaning that for every type of knob VW used during a given period there was a matching lighter. '67 is an odd year as it has a rubber knob that is different from the later ones. The early, with ivory knob, and later, with large ribbed plastic knob (sometimes with a smoking cigaret symbol on it) are easy to get. The lighter I have even has a VW mark on it. Paul's suggestion to wait till the Aalsmeer meeting is a good one, there should be someone with a lighter in the car there. Thanks, Theo