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I think the nose of a T34 looks kinda mean and cool, like a hawk beak. Toby Erkson ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 7/17/97 9:53 PM ... If it looks familiar, it's a Type 1. If it looks like a Corvair done by BMW, it's a Type 3! Hope this helps! Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 KGhia 1600 (in process) '64 KGhia 1500S (parts) '79 Riviera Campmobile (needs engine) comwest@well.com