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Wow. To do what my 2 vw's need in terms of rubber is going to run over a thousand bucks. I kinda sorta knew that, but this was the first time I actually added up the prices :-) Just thought I'd share that. -- g-r-a-t-e-f-u-l-l-y---[ email:<fishbowl@conservatory.com> ]---l-i-v-i-n-g d-e-a-d-i-c-a-t-e-d---[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]-----l-i-g-h-t Writing free verse is like playing tennis with the net down.