Re: T3 parts book.

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> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 22:26:59 +0200 (IST)
> From: Yevgheny Khanin <ykhanin@IIL.INTEL.COM>
> To: type-3@UMICH.EDU
> Subject: Re: T3 parts book.

> It's great, but: without Jim Adney's "The VW Part Numbering
> System" article (posted Feb 10th 1997) or some other source you
> can only use it the way very lively described in Alan Presley's
> lecture on "T3 parts book" (also posted last week, if I'm not
> mistaken).

Jim Adney's article should help us all make some sense out of VW
part numbers for those that are specifically manufactured for our
cars (and buses).

> Example from the real life.  I'm trying to find the screws which
> pull together two pieces of the popout window chrome on my '70
> LHD Notch.

Can I play Paul Harvey now and say "the rest of the story" is
that for screws, bolts, studs, washers, clips, and all sorts of
other items common to all vehicles, VW used an "N" number to
distinguish "standard" parts.  For example, "Bolt, M 8 x 15" is
going to bolt your clutch together, but may also be used for a
bumper or a seat.

> According to the subgroup No.45 description in the No.8 (body)
> group table of the catalog or Jim's simple table, I proceed to
> the illustration No.81 where I can indeed see my little screws
> under No.31.

> This knowledge alone doesn't help me much, does it?

> BTW, does the real Part Book give the size as well? I need to
> know what is the length of these screws. Can someone help?

By the N-number, your screw may be N12 342 and used not only in
Type 3s, but in Bugs, Buses and Ghias.  I just made that number
up, as I don't have my Parts List (Type 2, sorry I'm more a bus
nut) with me.  I am going through the same thing you are with my
Type 34 Ghia because I bought it in pieces and *many* of the
screws and bolts are missing.

> I'm sorry in advance if you find this piece confusing, folks. It
> probably is. Still hope it will help someone.

It can be a confusing hobby.  If anyone out there has the Type 3
Parts List and can identify the screw by number, I can at least
let you know if it is also used on an old bus.  That broadens the
possibilities some.  From your description, my guess is that it's
a 5 mm panhead screw with a chrome finish and could be the same
as one of the three used to hold bus pop-out window latches in
place.  If it is, I can probably track some down for you.

-Jim Bryant