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While I have everyones attention.. especially after that lame attempt to be funny with the "Hooked on Phonics Worked for Me" in German. ;-P Can anyone provide me with lengths for the front and rear torsion bars and axles on late model Squares? Specifically 1971 Yes, I will be buying a Bentlys book in the very near future. ;-) Thanks! --- John T. Croteau {jt@geekopolis.com} Founder, geekopolis.com - Minneapolis, MN - http://www.geekopolis.com