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>To: "'Keith Park'" <parkkj@orion.crd.ge.com> >so when I go to my local gas station and buy regular gas what am I getting? It is labeled "regular" and next to it is "regular unleaded". Yes, I believe you're right. There are still a few places around that carry leaded, but there is much less lead in it than there was when your car was new (or even young!) >I disagree with the statement that I can use unleaded in my car without some sort of additive. I have a '64 Notch with 30k original miles. The engine was never rebuilt so does not have hardened valves. It was my understanding that lead in gas helps to lubricate and without could "burn" your valves. >Yes? No? Maybe? It's hard to believe that there is a 33 year old T3 out there with only 30k and a virgin engine! I believe the lead did three things: 1) Increase the octane rating and thus prevent detonation. This can also be taken care of by more expensive distillation methods, by various additives, or by reducing the compression ratio. 2) Lubricate the valve stems. This can be treated by metallurgy. 3) "Lubricate" the valve seats. This can be cured by using hardened seats. I believe ALL our heads have hardened seats, but VW didn't start the chrome plated valve stems (in or ex, I can never remember) until, I think, '67. The late valves should retrofit the earlier cars, but some cars might have smaller valves which might make this difficult. I suppose a good machine shop might be able to grind one of the late valve heads down to a smaller diameter. The stems are all 8mm; I assume the lengths are the same or very close. Anyone done this? Jim --------------------------------------------------------------------- Melissa Kepner Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org jadney@vwtype3.org Laura Kepner-Adney Madison, Wisconsin ---------------------------------------------------------------------