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Hi All, The industrial engines came without heat exchangers for obvious reasons. They did have a nice addition that anyone running j-pipes might consider getting, cooling tin that fills the gap left by the removal of the heat ex. I can get the part #s if anyone is interested. Mine cost me about $5 apiece from Berg. They fit real well (provided that your lower tin is not bent up) and really seal up the lower cooling path. Later, Marty Gray | Without Weapons The Abilene, TX | Air Force Would Be pinball@camalott.com | Just Another Airline 1996 Dodge Ram CC SLT 1968 Volkswagen Type 3 FB (The Egg)