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I own a '72 and had a similar, albeit minor, problem with water leaks. Stuff to checkout: Pull back the trunk liner that wraps around the fresh air intake plenum (the box that sits in the trunk below the intake vents in front of the windshield). Check for rust -- this was an area where I had water leaks into the trunk area. *Fixes: Weld in a new metal patch or cut out the old and use fiberglass. Make sure to primer both sides of all metal... Use rust converter on small rust or as a temporary fix until you can repair the metal (rust converter, for those who don't know, can be found at any auto store -- it is a liquid chemical that you brush on rust and converts the rust to primer! Coolest stuff since duct tape and the 13mm ratchet. Read the directions.) In a pinch? Clean the area well (use the rust converter, too) and apply RTV (a silicone sealer found at any auto store, but don't use the stuff meant for engine gaskets!). Check the seals around the fresh air box itself. This will require disassembly. While you're at it, you can scoop out all of the crap that has accumulated over the years and check all of the seals. There should be a screen at the top to help keep stuff out. Also check the very bottom hose that allows water to flow out, make sure nothing is blocking it. *Fixes: RTV the bad seals if you cannot directly replace them. Be sure to mold (contour) the RTV like the seal. Use something like Armour All(TM) to freshen the seals. Check the whole front firewall for rust patches & holes. Water can seep in the smallest of holes. Also check all of the grommets in the firewall (like the one for the speedo cable) making sure they are whole (as in 'one piece', not as in 'holey' :) A good check is to open the front hood, then crawl in the front footwell areas and inspect the front firewall -- if you see light, you're looking at a problem! *Fixes: See above; replace grommets. How old is that window rubber?! Water can leak through old rubber, down the firewall and onto your toes (and wiring). *Fixes: Replacing any of the window rubber is very simple on the VW -- all you need is yourself and someone who is tall enough to push on the selected glass from the outside (i.e. your average 6 year-old could help). So, replace the glass! It should be about time for a new windshield (I replaced my stock one last year and, boy, was there a difference in visibility!). Can't do it right away? Grab yer RTV with the nozzle attached, this time the clear stuff (it comes in a variety of colors, including clear), poke the nozzle in between the rubber and the glass, and start squeezing, moving the tube as you go. What you're doing is making a bead between the glass and rubber. The window rubber will squish on the RTV as you move. Once done drawing the bead you will likely have some of it squish out onto the glass itself. Just take your finger and carefully wipe it off in a long, even stroke (this is called making a 'fillet', very similar to a 'fillet weld'). Try to seal both the inside and outside. Any leftover RTV can be easily scraped away with a razor after it dries. Speaking of rubber, how's about the door and window seals? Bad seals, even when the car is at a standstill, can leak water into the body, especially if there's a good wind blowing. *Fixes: Again, new rubber. I know, I know, it's expensive, that's why I haven't replaced mine yet. But, you can use the ol' RTV or go to an auto store and buy some general adhesive backed weather-stripping to replace/modify whatever you've got. I used 1/4" (I think) adhesive weather-stripping to replace the rear hatch seal, the used black RTV to seal both sides of the weather-stripping. Some slight trimming was involved, and I think the neighbors thought I was a little weird, opening & closing my hatch continuously while looking at it from every angle. But, hey, it's sealed! Other: How are your footwell heater openings? These can rust (read: expensive to repair) and collect water. How? When you drive, water gets splashed/sprayed up into them. Generally, the water prefers to pour out inside the cabin, not back outside where it belongs :) Look for other holes on the floorboards and UNDERNEATH THE BATTERY! Water could splash in and enter the cabin through a leaky rear kick panel or heater duct (hey, rust is to VWs like termites are to wood). Good luck, I hope you can find the problem. Luckily, it can be patched quickly! Toby Erkson modified '72 Squareback firstname.lastname@example.org ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Free foot washing Author: email@example.com at SMTPGATE Date: 10/14/96 2:04 PM My '71 Squareback seems to think my feet stink. When it rains, water pours in the front under the dash. I've left it outside by mistake and found up to 3 inches in the floorboard. Does anybody have this prob or know what causes it? Steve B.