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T3, Well, I went ahead and bit the bullet. We slammed (NOT) my Square down 9cm, with some pretty drastic results. The job of doing it was only slightly painful and took two of us (one a VW mechanic who has never lowered a T3 before) and a lot of tools about two hours to do the deed. I replaced the front shocks at the same time with German Boge TI rears. We failed to get to the steering gear box adjustment - he was doing this after hours and for free (see my next post about this job). Further, I will now need a four wheel alignment (if one is possible on this beast). The ride: yes, more bump steer. There is one small fender rub, probably due to my tires - 165s - and I think that I can eliminate it. The look: it does look a lot better. No more reverse rake. The rear does not need to be touched. It was exactly what I wanted. Now I will have to get kidney supports to handle the ride! Thanks to everyone who shared their humble opinions on the how-to and what-to do. And never believe anything you read in any mag about what works. The Haynes Manual was great. Tech articles from VWT and VolksWorld helped little. Nice pictures though ... Patrick & Urs _____________________________________ P A T R I C K J O E L M O R T O N Owner of, "Helmut", a 1963 Pearl White, Resto-Cal Custom Volkswagen Beetle & "Urs", a bone stock, Marine Blue 1967 Squareback, which will eat all of my money for years to come ... E-mail Address: patmor@utu.fi GSM/Text: +358 40 502 2654 Fax: +358 2 469 2671 Kasken Linna - Kaskenkatu 1E, 44 FIN - 20700 TURKU S U O M I F I N L A N D "In my opinion, America is the greatest planet on the face of the Earth." -- Dan Quayle, U.S. Vice President _____________________________________