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Emily and others, Oops, sorry. You are correct, I should have remained gender UNspecific. I am so used to the hobby being dominantly male-driven that I sometimes forget that there are women who are in the arena, too. My apologies to anyone whom I may have offended, male and female. The origin of the term came from my best friend, Stephanie, and it stuck because everyone who's heard the term has understood the meaning (because of the stereotype I would guess...). I did not mean to be a typical male-pig talking down about women (or is that a stereotype also? :) However, please lower your hackles. A gentle reminder would suffice -- I don't need my head bitten off, 'kay? Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com modified '72 VW Squareback 2.0L stock '75 Porsche 914 1.8L (this baby does mess up my hair!) P.S. Since I, too, can be concerned with my hair (especially since the damn stuff grows *forward*, not backwards) maybe we should rename the term -- any suggestions out there? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: TIII ragtop Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 12/19/96 9:13 AM >From: Toby Erkson >Date: Thursday, December 19, 1996 8:01AM >My rag also passed the Female Hair Test. Female???? Some females, like me, might take issue with that *crappy* stereotype. I can think of more than a few men more concerned with their coiffeur than me. In the interest of remaining gender-neutral, please refrain from propagating these outdated views. We females DO have greater concerns than our beehives, like restoring Notchbacks. Emily (with grease under nails) '64 Notchback 1500S '69 Westfalia