"swapin'" stories

[jadney@vwtype3.org (Melissa & Jim)]

>The parts you listed you could get for $150 (Trans, both axles, shifter,
>pedal cluster, clutch cable, flywheel, new clutch disk/pressure plate/to
>bearing)
>
>The axles you won't need (you have them from your automatic).

AT IRS axles are two different lengths, both different from beetles and T3 MTs!

 You WILL
>need the shifter rod and rod coupler (I don't know if your automatic pan
>will have the rod guides {anyone else know?}) and did we (the T-3 list)
>decide that ALL pans (auto and manual) have the clutch cable tube
>installed? 

The ATs I have looked at had no clutch cable tube installed.

and that the rear yokes ARE the same (I'm still not
>convinced)? possibly the gland nut for the new flywheel and a new manual
>tranny (yes, they're different) starter.

I think the rear yoke is the same on later cars, but early (69??) AT rear 
subframes (I assume this is what you mean by "yoke") may have been unique.
The AT used a different starter that did not require the bushing in the 
transmission case because they did not design in a place for it in the AT 
housing, but this starter will work just fine in a MT.  In fact, it is a 
good repair for a MT housing that has had its bushing hole augered out.  It 
is also slightly more powerful: .8 ps vs. .7 ps.

>Depending on your year, the shifter plate on the tunnel may have to be
>altered. You may also have to get a Manual rear yoke (jury is out on
>this one though).

In the beginning of the type III AT, either 68 or 69, depending on where you 
were in the world, VW introduced the AT with the idea that they were going 
to sell enough of them that they could differ in many ways from the MT cars. 
 By 70, I believe, they realized that it really didn't make sense to have 
different parts where there was no advantage.  Thus the early AT cars had 
unique center tunnels while later ones were identical with different bolt-on 
shift plates for MT and AT.  I think the rear subframe was the same story: 
early cars either had AT or MT rear subframes, later subframes were AT/MT.  
BTW, the early ATs themselves were rather different, check out around the 
output shafts.  IMHO the 70-71s were the best; 72-73s seem to have more 
problems.

Jim
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       Melissa Kepner                                    Jim Adney
       jadney@vwtype3.org              jadney@vwtype3.org
                             Laura Kepner-Adney
                             Madison, Wisconsin
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