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Which is a perfect example of what I was referring to about WATCH OUT for quality and safety issues, I would NOT want to run a CAST part in that kind of an application. Am I being prudent about this or is there a way to CAST that would allow for these kinds of stresses? Keith a sales opportunity rather than a post), Pete is actually casting those spindles. There is a large difference between a casting and a forging. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~