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And I lose about 10% of my gas mileage as soon as the stuff comes out. The Square runs notably hotter and has noticeably less power with the winter gas... I can tell as soon as they change to it or out of it with the Square. With the Golf its not as noticeable except in gas mileage. Keith Most gasolines these days, notably in the north-northeast US in winter, have about 10% or so ethanol as an oxygenator. That 10% is not enough to play real havoc with fuel lines in that concentration, nor really mess with existing engine management systems. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~