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Re: [T3] Suggestions on finding a short in the wiring harness?

<x-flowed>Back to the Battery, Battery connections and earths. It's there somewhere. Try feeling all the junctions of this high current path that you've just cleaned -just after it's died. You may find a hot one. Just to make certain we understand you, you removed and cleaned to bright metal both the car body and the straps where these are bolted down, and the connection on the tranny, you haven't got a loose connection on or in the battery terminals, and the battery is good? A faulty battery could also give these symptoms, have you tried another?

Graham wrote:

Update: Pulled the starter. Tested it. Dead. Pine box. Got a new
starter, made sure it was good, installed it. Problem still exists.
Pulled battery ground strap, tranny ground strap. Cleaned with carb
cleaner, cleaned up battery terminals, reinstalled. Starter kicks. I
crank it for 5 seconds, everything dies. Now, as soon as i hit the
starter button, everything dies. Back to this game. Any ideas?

On 8/8/06, Chris Wright <Christopher.Wright@sun.com> wrote:

Sounds to me like there might be a corroded earth connection on the
battery circuit somewhere.  These have a habit of getting hot and
breaking down when a lot of current is required but function well enough
to run low current items.  Let the high resistance joint cool down and
it works again for light items.  First thing I'd do is remove and clean
the earth straps from the battery to the body and particularly the one
underneath, from the body to the transmission.  This is the main earth
from the engine and therefore the starter depends on it.

BOB2TYPE3S@aol.com wrote:

>In a message dated 8/7/06 5:16:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, s13gram@gmail.com
><< OK, now the problem. When the key is put in the run position, the car
> is fine, I hear the fuel pump going, and all lights and accessories
> get power. When the starter button is depressed, the car immediately
> loses ALL power. No fuses blow in the glovebox, but everything dies,
> and stays dead, until the battery is disconnected and reconnected. Is
> there a circuit breaker I don't see in the wiring harness that is
> tripping? I'm thinking that the short is occuring in either the
> starter/solenoid, the generator/regulator or the wiring of those to
> the battery, as all accessories seem to work fine. Any suggestions of
> what to check? Anybody experience anything like this? >>
>I know there isn't a circuit breakeron these cars. It sounds like the
>solenoid is sticking if it's engaging from just pushing the button. The PO might have
>wired the push button wrong, and this is causing part of the problem. You
>might want to look on the Samba for a wiring diagram (they're in color), to kinda
>help you go thru the system.
>You mention that with the car running, everything is normal, so this also
>points to the starter / soleniod, and it's releated wiring. If you could tell us
>how the PO "hot" wired the starter, we might be able to help you some more.
>But with the limited description, we're kind shooting in the dark here.
>Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS (Krusty)
> 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at;
>http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 and now running the old Notch motor with
>D-jet FI . : )
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