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In a message dated 9/2/05 1:56:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, proformance2@cox.net writes: << This sounds like what happened to my '65 squareback. I'm still unsure what the problem is. I know some I hope. Jack >> The car still moves on it's own and is running great, but I just keep hearing the noise. My first thought when I heard it was a TB, and after checking my log book, I think that's what it is. Remember, this is an IRS equipped car now, and I haven't noticed any trans oil leaks, or any other problems associated with the trans. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, Formerly a 2 seat Roadster, now a T-3 Heb, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 69 Square, currently awaiting a 2.0L t-4 engine transplant ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~