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In a message dated 10/25/05 10:45:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ben@givingclothes.com writes: << Ok, so I live in texas and yes it doesn't get that cold but sometimes strange things happen and it gets down into the 30s and 40s :-) Well this has happened the past 2 mornings and it takes a 2-3 minutes of cranking my '69 squareback with dual carbs (stock ones from an older year) to start up. What do you all do in the cold climate areas to get your sqbacks going quicker in the mornings? >> Well, I live in a "cold climate", and my chokes are turned off. Normally I'll just tap the gas pedal twice, then start the engine up. I may have to sit there and hold the throttle pedal in a position until it'll idle on it's own (depends on outside air temp), but normally the 2 light pumps is it. You may have a fuel pump that's getting weak however, as about the only times I've had to wait that long to get the engine fired up, are after a long winter hibernation (the engine not being turned over for more than a month). Note, this is with either the stock Solex carbs (in the Notch or Square), or the Weber 34 ICT's in the Roadster 2 project (yes it gets fired up occasionally, as it's usually in and out of the garage over the winter getting something done to it). Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 and now awaiting a 2.0L t-4 engine transplant 69 Square AT, daily beater ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~