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In a message dated 10/7/05 5:11:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk writes: << BTW, never thought before that you USA guys take the 'ugh' out of doughnuts! ;-) >> MMM, donuts. : ) Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS 71 Square, Formerly a 2 seat Roadster, now a T-3 Heb, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 now awaiting a 2.0L t-4 engine transplant 69 Square AT, daily beater ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~