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I would definetely go with a supertrapp. They are more expensive, but they are tune-able in that you can increase or decrease backpressure and also the loudness of the exhaust. So if you get a fix-it ticket for a loud exhaust, all you have to do is take off a few of the discs to make it quieter. I was thinking of getting the 22" long with a 2" inlet and 4" outlet. The discs are hidden a little better than the others. I have seen a couple of squares with stingers and they look pretty good. -----Original Message----- From: matthew russell [mailto:dynamico@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:29 AM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: [T3] Obnoxious Exhaust Hey everyone, I am thinking that I want to get a stinger. But, I think I want to get a short stinger with a supertrap. thanks, matthew ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~