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Hey Keith....sure felt good getting out in that 40+ degree sunshiny day today as well!! sounds like you basically just park it (for the winter) outside as far as the state of the engine, anyways.......do you just leave oil in it and gas in it so you can occasionally fire it up during hibernation? have you found that works better than draining gas and/or oil for outside winter storage? Dave Pallo Hers: '72 Square (in process) His: '96 Impala SS....Sunny Sunday's only ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~