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On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 10:34, Jim Adney wrote: > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmm... Wow! I've never heard of a set of points NEVER needing > > adjustment or replacing in 25 years? Do you drive it much? In my > > previous VW's (1965 bug and 1964 Bus) or any other old car I owned with > > points always needed some adjustment, even with lube on them. Thousands > > of automotive engineers can't be wrong can they? :-) > > I think Russ's '71 sat for many years, so his example really isn't fair. OTOH, > we hear of many Pertronix failures within 3 years, which is much less than my > points last. > It sat from '85 until 2000. But the car fired up and is still running on those points. I drive the car approx. 4000 miles a year, so that is about 20K miles on those points since the car went back into service. > > There was a time when the 009 was considered the dist of choice. That time was > when the stock dist was a vac adv dist. A mech adv dist was needed when people > started putting different carbs on their VWs, because once you do this your OE > vac adv dist won't work correctly any more. Around 1970 VW started supplying > dists that had mech adv (for proper operation & power) plus vac adv (for > enhanced advance at low load to give fuel economy.) These distributors are > actually pretty good choices, but you really have to look at the specific > advance curves to see which ones are better. It just happens that the early FI > type 3 dists have very good advance curves, good for ANY aircooled VW engine. > The original 009 distributor was for an industrial engine. An engine that was designed to run at one constant speed. We do not run our engines at a constant speed. > There is also the thought that recent production of the 009 dists in Brazil is > not of the same quality as the originals, but I really don't know if there's > any truth in that. As far as I can tell, however, the only thing keeping the > 009 alive is the herd mentality that keeps people following what everyone else > is doing. This mentality continues to be stroked by those who stand to profit > from sales of the 009s. I have heard of an 009 recently that disintigrated internally, The person couldn't figure where the metal shavings were coming from. > > Frankly, my first choice in ignitions are the old CDI units made by Delta. They > use the stock points & coil and have a switch that allows them to be switched > back to normal. I've been using them since 1966 and have had excellent > operation out of them. My points last for many years with this system, and the > only way they fail is if the little wire breaks inside its insulation. I agree with Jim, The Delta CDI was a very reliable unit that could be switched back to stock with the flip of a switch. If you want a modern reliable unit, Get the one from a late T-2 with electronic ignition. It will drop right into our engines. I think Hal Sullivan posted what year it was that works. -- Russ Wolfe '71 FB AT '66 FB MT '64 T34 (not running) '65 T1 (not running) '05 KIA Sorento SUV russw@classicvw.org http://www.classicvw.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~