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In a message dated 4/7/05 10:54:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RSCHLEGEL@OCSD.COM writes: << Winter? What is that? Put your car away? Does it get colder than Germany? I think in Germany they drove their cars all year round. :-) >> Winter is snow on the ground, lots of snow. Also where some of us live, they use road salt, lots of road salt. This stuff eats newer cars withing 4 years, and they are built with double sided galvanized sheet metal. Our cars aren't, so I put mine away for the winter. Yes, this year we did get colder than Germany. :O That's why I have a dedicated winter car ($500 throw away car with real heat). If I wasn't worried about it rusting out, then I'd drive it in the winter, just like I did with my old bug. Two years after I stopped driving it, I had to replace both heater channels, along with mostof the lower 6 inches of sheet metal. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~