Re: [T3] leaky transmission. [ strange one.. ]

[John Fessenden "fess" <fess-vwtype3.org@fess.org>]

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On Sep 15, 2004, at 7:33 PM, Jim Adney wrote:

> On 15 Sep 2004 at 10:04, fess wrote:
>
> > He thinks he might be mistaken on this now. saying that for bugs, this
> > type of flange on the axle retainer, ( and corresponding O ring seal. 
> > )
> >  were only on '68 bugs.  but they might have been there on '67 type
> > III's
>
> It looks like your mechanic knows his stuff. The O-ring was only used 
> on 67-on
> swing axles. The axle tube looks like it is a special that had to be 
> bought
> with the retainer plate already in place. The left tube is 361 501 
> 105A (has
> white paint dot) and the right one is a 361 501 106A. Basically all 
> these parts
> were just used on the cars that got the Z-bar, which was 67-68, plus 
> the late
> M263 swing axles that we didn't get in the US and a few early M267 
> swing axles
> that also came with the Z-bar.

wow. thanks jim.  Great info.

> I'd say your options are limited:
>
> 1) grind off the tab, replace the retainer plate with a 111 501 141B 
> retainer
> plate (uses the O-ring), reweld the tab.

we talked about this one already, my mechanic made a statement like:
"I don't know how they did it at the factory. Welding that thing on 
there
would distort the tube without special cooling techniques."

> 2) find the correct part somewhere, new or used.

are both sides are symmetric? ie, can I use a right side tube on the 
left?

> 3) grind off both tabs, replace the retainer plate, and remove the 
> z-bar.

So, what exactly does this z-bar do?  I still don't quite get it, even 
from the posts
so far.  What am I trading off if I get rid of it.

> 4) find a complete 67-68 MT in a junkyard somewhere and install it.
>
> Sorry, not the news I was hoping for.

It's all right. i'm getting used to everything being as bad as possible.
and I'm getting more determined to put it right.

thanks a bunch for the info.

So, I'm basically looking for a 67-68 type III transaxle, or part 
thereof.

I still wish I understood what could happen to this plate to cause it to
leak.

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