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Ok , I understand, what I don't understand is the (Points Gap) diffrence between the feeler gauge method. I used the specified feeler gauge (.16) but my dwell was only about 33. That is why I went ahead and used the dwell meter and forgot about the gap to get the timing light aligned to 7 1/2 BTDC. Do I make sense?, I am about to test it so I will let you know how it runs. I am also using 89 octane gas so I might buy a booster tomorrow if the pinging persists. Thanks Keith David 67 Baltic Blue Fasty Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycap.rr.com> To: <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [T3] Dwell and Timing > Point gap affects dwell and timing. if your timing is spec than having the > dwell off a bit wont affect detonation. If your detonating and your > timing > is stock check and make sure your not running lean or more importantly > that > your using the correct octane gas for the car, which is 92 OCT in the US > with that car. > > If its still knocking and pinging then somebody probably fly cut the heads > and didnt add shims to lower the compression ratio... common problem. > > Keith > > > > > I want to be clear on some simple timing procedures involving, Dwell, > > RPM, > > Advance. I started tweaking my timing this weekend due to heavy pinging > > during load on my 67 Fasty. It started and idled fine, I had set the > timing > > @ 7 1/2 BTDC with the engine warm and the vaccum hose disconnected but > once > > it warmed up I experienced heavy pinging so today at a local swapmeet I > got > > a dwell meter. I had set the dwell to specification with a feeler gauge > but > > once I checked it with the meter I got today I noticed that according to > the > > TM I was setting it at about 33. The TM specified 42-54 so I forgot > > about > > the feeler gauge method and decided to go with the reading on the meter > > as > > the engine was running. After I did this I rechecked the timing and set > > it > > at 7 1/2 BTDC, the RPM at 850 RPM between synching the carbs. I have not > yet > > tried it but I am in a bit, can anyone shed some light on this for me. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~ Shameless link for search engines: http://listarchive.type3.org ~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >