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Dave, thanks for the info and the photos. I'll post them on the forum where the question was originally asked. As I metioned the guy has a 71 fasty to use as a donor. It looks like the easiest thing would be to just swap pans. The question is is a 71 fasty pan compatible with a 69 sqbk body ie can they be swapped over to save all the cutting and welding. Steven Australia '71 AT fasty vert '72 MT fasty FI ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Shameless link for search engines: http://listarchive.type3.org ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~