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i believe thatis my problems.......was working on it last night. the torsion bar is sliding back and forth on the stabalizer bar.........So i tried to loosen the lock screw on the torsion bar to tighten it and the screw that goes in it and tightens against, i guess the stabalizer bar wont budge.............so yes its actually going in and out on the stabalizer bar....and i believe that the other side is just like it cause when i pushed it in the garage the front wheels, (both) sort of moved in and out while rolling..........And the hole that the stabalizer bar goes in on the torsion arm is sort of rounded too..........on the left side...... So how do i get this crazy nut out for one thing or is the torsion arm bar too bad to use and should i get another one?. If its too bad to use then i can cut it off if i had another one. I believe the one on the right side is ok, (it should be shouldnt it as the play was coming from the left side?)........And if it needs to replaced how or where can i find one for the left side.....I think i have one off another square i have but it may be worn too. I hope this helps as im reading the book and tring to use the part names listed in it........and trying to be as descriptive as possible. thanks you guys for all your help Rus --- Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote: > On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:58, Rus wrote: > > > with the other side (wheel) on the ground and the > left side (wheel) off > > i could grab the disk brake and move the wheel WAY > up and down. The > > play was coming from the upper left torsion? bar > that is attached to > > the stabilazer bar.......LOTS OF PLAY.........NOw > im not sure about the > > right side as im having problems with it also. > > I'm not sure whether you are actually talking about > a lot of straight vertical > play (rather unlikely,) or rather a lot of rocking > play about a fore and aft > axis (very likely.) > > Try this: > > With all 4 wheels on the ground grab the LF wheel at > the top and yank it > sideways, side to side. Does it clunk side to side? > Does the other side do the > same? If so, get someone to do this for you while > you stick your head on the > ground in front of the wheel and look up at where > the trailing arms come out of > the axle beam. If you can see the trailing arm going > in and out of the axle > beam then the upper stabilizer bar is loose. Since > it is loose you should feel > the SAME thing with the wheels on BOTH sides. If > you're not sure of what it > SHOULD feel like, do the same test with a back > wheel; they will be steady, > although you will probably be able to feel the tire > squirm sideways a bit. > > The tire squirm is normal; the clunk is not. > > If this IS your problem, let us know so we can tell > you what you need to do to > give you some chance at repairing it successfully. > > If you don't find this to be a problem, let us know > and we'll try for plan B. > We'll need some more hints first. > > -- > ******************************* > Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, Wisconsin, USA > ******************************* > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | > mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com