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On that note, my baby puts out 91hp at the wheels...so this makes me wonder, is $5000 for a high-performance engine *really* worth it when it only gets you +30hp? Well, it would be nice to know what a stock FI car puts down at the wheels cuz it's less than the rated 65hp (measured at the crank). remember though, a stocker all new engine is 1200 for the long block. if you add dual 2 barrel carbs you are at 1700+ already and that is for 65hp at the flywheel. you have 91 hp at the rear wheels or 1/3 more HP at the wheels that a stocker has at the flywheel. that is a drastic increase in performance. Brian Fye South Umpqua High School In -School Suspension Supervisor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~