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Same thing I ran into in 96 when I last did a valve job on the Square.... but I could still get empty ones then. Ill have to do some looking into those "rats in the woods" I heard about 15 years ago.... maybe they can relinquish some affordable trinkets you need even if they are rusted hulks. Keith They just > want to sell you complete heads, and I am NOT EVEN going there. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~