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DaveH=> e-clips usually have a middle spike - => c-clips would be more the style. It's neither, really. The clip is shaped sort of like the cross-section of a flared vase, made of spring wire. I found very similar generic/GM-style clips at the FLAPS that are usable but just little larger than stock. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 Grosse Karmann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org