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Hi, > >going up a hill > How steep of a hill? > Not VERY steep, but steep enough to make the car sound strained. > >the revs went sky high > how fast were you going when you downshifted > to 2nd? To be honest I don't know. My speedo was making so much noise that I disconnected it. I need to ge tit fixed. I didn't think I was going all that fast, and I slowed down before changing gear. I doubt if I was doing more than 70kph, probably less. > > >new noise > what does it sound like? when do you hear it? > It may have been a false alarm. I took the car out for a short spin, and couldn't hear it any more. I'll take it for another proper drive tomorrow, and see how it goes. What I really wanted to know is whether it is theoretically possible to overrev an automatic. I thought I once read on this list that if you downshif when going too fast, it won't change gear until you slow down. Maybe I'm remembering this wrong. Daniel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org