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Well when I hit the switch I don't hear any click-so either a bad switch or bad relay...or maybe fuse? I thought it was supposed to light up because it has that little orange mark on top, I couldn't tell if was a lens or just an orange mark-I guess it is just a mark to let you know when it is on. Do these things time out...or are they on all the time when on? Does that make sense? We just got hit with a bunch of snow, so this puts off work on my vw's a bit longer...once we have some decent weather I'll be testing this out, and post what happens...maybe some day I will have a garage....that would be nice. Thanks for the suggestions... -kevin '65 kombi '71 sqbk somerville, ma -----Original Message----- From: Jim Adney [mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org] Your switch does not light up. If it isn't working it can actually be taken apart and cleaned. There is a relay under the back seat that the switch turns on; you should be able to hear that relay click when you flip the switch. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org