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Pardon my complete ignorance, but all this afo, ace, ac/dc jargen is driving me MAD. I cant understand a lick and im going blind over all these letters. dumb founded and still a fresh newbee, rob __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org