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For the rear: a neat little tool I downloaded to help figure out how much to turn the torsion bars when lowering or raising I guess if your into that sorta thing. you punch in how many inches of change you want , and it will tell you how many splines innner to move and how many outer to move to get that exact change in ride height. http://home.comcast.net/~thorkhild/vwlowering.zip wish I could remember where I found it. So I could get the source files and do some modifications for type 3 front ends. 1968 VW Blue 1600TLE Darkside Apprentice Thorkhild http://home.comcast.net/~thorkhild/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org