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Yup, the first 65s came with the ovals and the flattened area behind the top of the fender where the hoses entered the cab. Somewhere into 65 VW changed the stampings so that in the trunk area behind the gas tank on the driver's side there is a flattened area for the 'leg burner' luggage area heater. The oval stampings stayed until the new front lip in 1970 but the flattened area for the leg burner stayed. Compare driver's side to passenger side and you'll see what I mean. Andre Remember too, early T3s dont > have any stamped sections that show where to cut holes in the sheet metal. > Andre when did they start that? 65? Its cool to that Andre and I discovered > that the ovals on the inside of the tire well are for the East-West nose > mounted heater. There is alot of prep that VW did for Eberspacher. Makes me > wonder if Eberspacher had a great sales team or did VW own a piece of them?? > > jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org