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Actually they arent rare... or maybe I should say WERENT rare.... until Ebay! all 67 T3's and 72-4 Busses had the 12V chokes, and there were GOBS of rusted out old busses around here not too long ago. I will admit that if you find one now the choke elements are usually gone... Keith > 12V Type 3 choke heaters are relatively rare in the US, since US-spec cars > were all FI as soon as that became available. They're not usually expensive, > but don't turn up often. You may have better luck looking for a set of Type > 4 carbs (32-34 PDSIT); these use the same heaters. > > Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ > '66 KG1600 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org